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Sharing from James about "RRC Connection Release"

2006-12-07 10:16:14

The following is derived from 25.331v620:
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8.1.4a.1        General
/R}{qrPC0 The purpose of this procedure is to release the RRC connection and bar the current cell or cells. The procedure is requested by upper layers when they determine that the network has failed an authentication check [5].
a_G4o4|1nU0 8.1.4a.2        Initiation
K"k1OK.|cm0 If the upper layers request the release of the RRC connection, the UE shall:
k P L;A3o;s"L Pgq/m0 1>        release all its radio resources;
Xu _$NgjMD#L0 1>        enter idle mode;
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1>        if the UE was in CELL_DCH state prior to entering idle mode:
uFZ _K:rd nH0      2>        consider all cells that were in the active set prior to entering idle mode to be barred according to [4]; and
A{],\r,f~p V0      2>        consider the barred cells as using the value "allowed" in the IE "Intra-frequency cell re-selection indicator", and the maximum value in the IE "Tbarred".

n7w [1XKP$`{0 1>        if the UE was in CELL_FACH or CELL_PCH or URA_PCH state prior to entering idle mode:
D C*{/G5O8H/Q8a~0      2>        consider the cell on which the UE was camped prior to entering idle mode to be barred according to [4]; and
;oV'L6V&J`f0      2>        consider the barred cell as using the value "allowed" in the IE "Intra-frequency cell re-selection indicator", and the maximum value in the IE "Tbarred".

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If the authentication fail, UE's NAS layer will indicate UE' AS that these cells will be regarded as BARRED. But normally they cells work well and no the IE "Intra-frequency cell re-selection indicator" and the IE "Tbarred" are broadcasting in SIB3 or SIB4. Thus, UE can never read them, and these cells will be never re-selected by UE again.  中国通信网-无限分享XAIxR;Rp+V-o
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antoniuslv的个人空间 antoniuslv 发布于2006-12-07 14:13:19
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不然的话就被网络骗了哈
James-Ran的个人空间 James-Ran 发布于2006-12-07 13:42:13

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原帖由 antoniuslv 于 2006-12-7 11:40 发表
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为何会出现auth failure?是因为UE和网络(PLMN)的认证发生了失败,而不是因为无线的原因造成的失败。中国通信网-无限分享`yF3Ywg
那么,既然已经失败了,UE还有必要再尝试去接入该PLMN下的CELL吗?我认为是没 ...
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en, it's reasonable for antoniuslv's.
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"If the MS deems that the network has failed the authentication check, then it shall request RR or RRC to release the RR connection and the PS signalling connection, if any, and bar the active cell or cells (see 3GPP TS 25.331 and 3GPP TS 44.018)."
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U7Mz,h Yn6iF|Here, it's clear that UE will regard this cell or cells as BARRED.
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But I think this part may be used to prevent the faking network for network security.欢迎光临中国通信网,这里为您提供通信技术,通信资源,通信资料,电信技术,移动通信,3G资料,通信资料下载,通信知识,通信学习,移动通信资料,NGN资料,通信培训,通信人才等服务I
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Here,"the network has failed an authentication check" means network does not pass the checked by UE. Thus, UE will think this cell is a faking cell or network. Thus, UE should ignore it. (Maybe same PLMN ID is for faking network and real one), UE should select another available cell without care of PLMN ID.
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antoniuslv的个人空间 antoniuslv 发布于2006-12-07 11:40:58
再re一下。
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为何会出现auth failure?是因为UE和网络(PLMN)的认证发生了失败,而不是因为无线的原因造成的失败。
oY?*N&kw!dwww.cnttr.com那么,既然已经失败了,UE还有必要再尝试去接入该PLMN下的CELL吗?我认为是没必要了(至少在一个T时间内)。
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lovewelkin发布于2006-12-07 11:28:33
re一下。
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