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We can increase the "DRX length" to prolong the call setup time for CS call. Thus, we can reduce the congestion rate.
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Normally, Erlang-B table is used for RT services with call blocking rate, and Erlang-C table is used for NRT service with call queue time. From here, we can see the nature of RT service. Could we get more time from RT service to let us use RRM algorithm effeciently? Yes, we can control the access entry of RT service. Once the user plane had been established,it's difficult to do more on RT service.(of course, for AMR, we can adjust the vocoder rate for this purpose)
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So, we can increase the "DRX length" before rush time and back to normal with the adaptive method.
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韦爵爷的个人空间 韦爵爷 发布于2006-12-05 15:24:46
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延长接入时延会减少拥塞率,因为目前统计来看呼叫保持时间是在50s左右,瞬时来说延长接入时延会使的一部分接入的用户可以占用释放的信道,但这个比例是多少,还需要实测。
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2、DRX增加,影响的是接入时延,与爱尔兰C表不是一个概念。这个接入时延可以从统计上看,平均所有的接入会退后增加的DRX周期。欢迎光临中国通信网,这里为您提供通信技术,通信资源,通信资料,电信技术,移动通信,3G资料,通信资料下载,通信知识,通信学习,移动通信资料,NGN资料,通信培训,通信人才等服务)dm#S,u\1XX

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1、接入时延增加给所有用户带来了感受度的降低,无法体现QOS
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2、DRX增加,影响的是接入时延,与爱尔兰C表不是一个概念。这个接入时延可以从统计上看,平均所有的接入会退后增加的DRX周期。+ss:hETMA
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DRX的确会影响call setup time,但是对于容量的贡献应该说是非常小的。
James-Ran的个人空间 James-Ran 发布于2006-09-04 10:08:30
M to M, DRX will affect the connection time.
xingpp的个人空间 xingpp 发布于2006-09-04 10:01:32
关键是对call setup time的理解,是否受DRX length的影响?
James-Ran的个人空间 James-Ran 发布于2006-09-04 09:41:23
let's summarize all from you.
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And it's not matter which method you adopt, for example, as lovewelkin's said.
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From theory, it's fine if you check what I reminder. But in real sites, I don't know. It need a trial.
xingpp的个人空间 xingpp 发布于2006-09-04 09:30:27
初步感觉,修改DRX length不会降低拥塞率。中国通信网-无限分享I@Co)D:f(|&@|
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因为单位时间内接入用户数还是一定的,仅仅是整体向后平移。
lovewelkin发布于2006-09-04 09:29:34
这是小区参数,这样做的弊端是很明显的,就算在不拥塞的时候也会造成小区内所有用户的寻呼时间增长。要想拥塞时增加被呼用户的寻呼次数,可以修改“最大寻呼次数”这个参数,比改这个参数效果要好很多。
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原帖由 renew 于 2006-9-3 22:59 发表
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接入时延是一项KPI指标,客户是不会同意你随便修改的,影响到寻呼。
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并且提高这个值不能快速有效的降低负载,而且从统计的角度来看,如果增加的不大,对负载没有什么影响。
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1. I agree call setup time is a KPI. But I also emphasize this kind of modification should not affect the customer's feel as its first rule. And if you can increase traffics on the congested cells without expansion, I guess customer can understand this.
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3. I also want to know how about the effect of this method is in a real system except the theorical aspect.
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renew发布于2006-09-03 22:59:23
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James-Ran的个人空间 James-Ran 发布于2006-09-03 22:03:52

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原帖由 sbleo 于 2006-9-3 21:56 发表
t5A!vy'a9JWhat James-Ran said is like the philosophy of medicine,we couldn't only depend on the traditional medicine(like Western medicine), but also consider the alternative medicine(like Chinese herbal ).  ...
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sbleo发布于2006-09-03 21:56:30
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We must think about the method from defferent aspects as many as possible.
James-Ran的个人空间 James-Ran 发布于2006-09-03 21:11:35
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